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    hero incarnation level drop calculator

    This is a tool to use to determine what level your hero will drop to after reincarnation (for basic info on reincarnation, see: https://forum.callofgods.com/showthr...nation+feature).

    I had to move part of the table to the 2nd post, because of this posts character number limit.

    To establish what level a hero will drop too, I made a list of the xp needed for each individual level to know how much xp a hero has in total at any level.
    Then its quite easy to calculate how far a hero will drop if you know that a 1st reincarnation will use the exact amount of xp a hero has when he just turned 100, the 2nd that for level 120 and the third for level 140. Or:

    For the 1st reincarnation, the exp reduction is 456,439,760.

    For the 2nd reincarnation, the exp reduction is 1,181,439,760

    For the 3rd reincarnation, the exp reduction is 3,231,439,760

    How to use:
    The 5th, 6th and 7th column are now filled. It lists the level a hero will drop to at the specified amount of xp into its current level. To use this table, you need to find the xp your hero has towards the next level. This number can be found in the hero menu, first tab.
    For example, for 1st reincarnation at level 110 it says: 104-105(>31,439,760)-106(>106,439,760) which means: the hero drops to 106 if it has more then 106,439,760 xp, to 105 if it has more then 31,439,760 xp (but less then 106,439,760 xp) and to 104 if it has less then 31,439,760 xp.

    If you want to do your own maths:
    If you want to do your own maths: first calculate your heroes current total xp (find the number upto his lvl in the table and add the xp he has towards the next level (you can find this in your hero's information)), then subtract the xp it will loose from the reincarnation you want to do, then you will get the xp it will have after reincarnation. Find the closest number below this in the 2nd column of the table and see what level it belongs to. Thats the level your hero will drop to.

    Tips in general about reincarnation (1st only!) and cultivation:
    When to reincarnate heroes and how much to cultivate them is a complicated issue.
    https://forum.callofgods.com/showthr...carnation-time This old post gives great tips, but those tips don't take our silver issues into account though.

    Culting heroes a lot before reincarnating them is the best way to go, but not affordable for all players or all heroes, so think carefully what you spent your silver on! Cultivate 1 stat only if you are very low on silver, or wait untill you turn 120 and will get a lot more silver eacht day and cult 2 or even 3 stats on a hero.

    You will create the absoulte best hero possible if you cultivate all 4 stats to 100% and reincarnate the hero at the highest possible level. But not many will do this, it takes too long, costs too much silver (and gold) and its not practical at all to wait so long. So you will have to compromise. Somewhere. This makes culting and reincarnation so hard: you will need to sacrifice something and there is no "right" way to do it. Try and get a full picture before you decide though, so that at least you know what compromise you are making exactly...

    An example for 1st reincarnation for a player of about level 145: (this should give everyone a general idea):
    Reincarnating at level 100: Plus side: cheap to cult back and the hero can start using astrology souls very soon. Down side: hero will drop a lot of levels and will out quite weak in the end.
    Reincarnating at level 110: Plus side: the hero can probably stay in your main team and start using astrology souls relatively soon. Down side: cultivating the hero again will be costly and the hero may still have to drop some of his gear.
    Reincarnating at level 126: Plus side: the hero will turn out pretty good eventually and it can stay in the team all the time. Down side: cultivating again will be very costly and it will take a long time before the hero can start using astrology souls.
    Reincarnating at level 145: Plus side: the hero will turn out great eventually and it can keep wearing its gear. Down side: it will be a lot weaker then heroes his level that have been reincarnated at an earlier level untill the reincarnation, it cant use astrology souls for a very long time, making the level up process slow, the recult will cost milions and milions of silver.

    If you dont plan on playing your character for very long, reincarnating at 108 might be a good way to go. If you do plan on playing it longer, you should know that once you can do sky dungeons, you will get loads of silver and xp and because of this its probably better to wait untill you are 135-140, when you dont level up so fast anymore and have caught up with the cultivating.
    Keep in mind that your hero will probably have LOWER stats (atk, def, vit, agi) right after the first cultivation then it had before. To see the improvement in stats the reincarnation gives, you will need to recultivate the hero back up.

    Notes:
    Thanks everyone who helped me gather data for this tool and special thanks to Taehosun for the idea to make this and to Diderot, for his numbers and PM support!

    If anyone sees any mistakes in this, or does not understand the table, please let me know.

    hero lvl total xp at
    start of lvl
    xp needed for
    next lvl
    xp increase
    from last lvl
    drops to lvl (if xp>no)
    after 1st reincarnation
    drop to lvl (if xp>no)
    after 2nd reincarnation
    drop 3d reincarnation
    100 456,439,760 50,000,000 7,250,000 between 1 and 79 - -
    101 506,439,760 55,000,000 5,000,000 between 79 and 85 - -
    102 561,439,760 60,000,000 5,000,000 between 85 and 90 - -
    103 621,439,760 65,000,000 5,000,000 90-91(>17,419,760)-
    92(>64,109,760)
    - -
    104 686,439,760 70,000,000 5,000,000 93-94(>19,349,760)-
    95(>45,759,760)
    - -
    105 756,439,760 75,000,000 5,000,000 96-97(>5,339,760)-
    98(>74,289,760)
    - -
    106 831,439,760 80,000,000 5,000,000 98-99(>38,689,760) - -
    107 911,439,760 85,000,000 5,000,000 99-100(>1,439,760)-
    101(>51,439,760)
    - -
    108 996,439,760 90,000,000 5,000,000 101-102(>21,439,760)-
    103(>81,439,760)
    - -
    109 1,086,439,760 95,000,000 5,000,000 103-104(>56,439,760) - -
    110 1,181,439,760 115,000,000 10,000,000 104-105(>31,439,760)-
    106(>106,439,760)
    between 1 and 86 -
    111 1,296,439,760 135,000,000 20,000,000 106-107(>71,439,760) between 86 and 94 -
    112 1,431,439,760 155,000,000 20,000,000 107-108(>21,438,760)-
    109(>111,439,760)
    between 94 and 98 -
    113 1,586,439,760 175,000,000 20,000,000 109-110(>51,439,760)-
    111(>166,439,760)
    98-99(>8,689,760)
    -100(>51,439,760)
    -101(>101,439,760)
    -102(>156,439,760)
    -
    114 1,761,439,760 195,000,000 20,000,000 111-112(>126,439,760) 102-103(>41,439,760)
    -104(>106,439,760)
    105(>176,439,760)
    -
    115 1,956,439,760 215,000,000 20,000,000 112-113(>86,439,760) 105-106(>56,439,760)
    -107(>136,439,760)
    -
    116 2,171,439,760 235,000,000 20,000,000 113-114(>46,439,760) 107-108(>6,439,760)
    -109(>101,439,760)
    110(>216,439,760)
    -
    117 2,406,439,760 255,000,000 20,000,000 114-115(>6,439,760)-
    116(>221,439,760)
    110-111(>71,439,760)
    -112(>226,4439,760)
    -
    118 2,661,439,760 275,000,000 20,000,000 116-117(>201,439,760) 112-113(>106,439,760) -
    119 2,936,439,760 295,000,000 20,000,000 117-118(>181,439,760) 113-114(>6,439,760)
    -115(>201,439,760)
    -
    120 3,231,439,760 315,000,000 20,000,000 118-119(>161,439,760) 115-116(>121,439,760) between 1 and 96
    121 3,546,439,760 335,000,000 20,000,000 119-120(>141,439,760) 116-117(>41,439,760)
    -118(>296,439,760)
    96-97-98-99-
    100(>141,439,760)
    -101-102-103
    122 3,881,439,760 355,000,000 20,000,000 120-121(>121,439,760) 118-119(>236,439,760) 103-104-
    105(>106,439,760)
    -106-107-108
    123 4,236,439,760 375,000,000 20,000,000 121-122(>101,439,760) 119-120(>176,439,760) 108-109
    -110(>86,439,760)
    -111-112
    124 4,611,439,760 400,000,000 25,000,000 122-123(>81,439,760) 120-121(>1,439,760) 112-113-114
    125 5,011,439,760 425,000,000 25,000,000 123-124(>56,4439,760) 121-122(>51,439,760)
    -123(>406,439,760)
    114
    -115(>176,439,760)
    -116
    126 5,436,439,760 450,000,000 25,000,000 124-125(>31,439,760) 123-124(>336,439,760) 116-117
    127 5,886,439,760 475,000,000 25,000,000 125-126(>6,439,760)-
    127(>456,439,760)
    124-125(>306,439,760) 117-118-119
    128 6,361,439,760 500,000,000 25,000,000 127-128(>456,439,760) 125-126(>256,439,760) 119-120(>101,439,760)
    129 6,861,439,760 525,000,000 25,000,000 128-129(>456,439,760) 126-127(>206,439,760) 120-121-122
    130 7,386,439,760 550,000,000 25,000,000 129-130(>456,439,760) 127-128(>156,439,760) 122-123-124
    131 7,936,439,760 590,000,000 40,000,000 130-131(>456,439,760) 128-129(>106,439,760) 124-125(>306,439,760)
    132 8,526,439,760 630,000,000 40,000,000 131-132(>456,439,760) 129-130(>41,439,760)
    -131(>591,439,760)
    125-126-127
    133 9,156,439,760 670,000,000 40,000,000 132-133(>456,439,760) 131-132(>551,439,760) 127-128
    134 9,826,439,760 710,000,000 40,000,000 133-134(>456,439,760) 132-133(>511,439,760) 128-129
    135 10,536,439,760 750,000,000 40,000,000 134-135(>456,439,760) 133-134(>471,439,760) 129-130(>81,439,760)-131
    136 11,286,439,760 790,000,000 40,000,000 135-136(>456,439,760) 134-135(>431,439,760) 131-132
    137 12,076,439,760 830,000,000 40,000,000 136-137(>456,439,760) 135-136(>391,439,760) 132-133
    138 12,906,439,760 870,000,000 40,000,000 137-138(>456,439,760) 136-137(>351,439,760) 133-134-
    135(>861,439,760)
    139 13,776,439,760 910,000,000 40,000,000 138-139(>456,439,760) 137-138(>311,439,760) 135-136
    140 14,686,439,760 950,000,000 40,000,000 139-140(>456,439,760) 138-139(>271,439,760) 136-137
    141 15,636,439,760 1,100,000,000 150,000,000 140-141(>456,439,760) 139-140(>231,439,760) 137-138
    142 16,736,439,760 1,500,000,000 400,000,000 141-142(>456,439,760) 140-141(>81,439,760)
    142(>1,181,439,760)
    138-139-
    140(>1,178,538,760)
    143 18,236,439,760 1,900,000,000 400,000,000 142-143(>456,439,760) 142-143(>1,181,439,760) 140-141-142
    144 20,136,439,760 2,300,000,000 400,000,000 143-144(>456,439,760) 143-144(>1,181,439,760) 142-143(>1,331,439,760)
    145 22,436,439,760 2,800,000,000 500,000,000 144-145(>456,439,760) 144-145(>1,181,439,760) 143-144(>931,439,760)
    146 25,236,439,760 3,300,000,000 500,000,000 145-146(>456,439,760) 145-146(>1,181,439,760) 145-146(>3,231,439,760)
    147 29,036,439,760 3,800,000,000 500,000,000 146-147(>456,439,760) 146-147(>1,181,439,760) 146-147(>3,231,439,760)
    148 33,536,439,760 4,500,000,000 700,000,000 147-148(>456,439,760) 147-148(>1,181,439,760) 147-148(>3,231,439,760)
    149 38,736,439,760 5,200,000,000 700,000,000 148-149(>456,439,760) 148-149(>1,181,439,760) 148-149(>3,231,439,760)
    150 44,636,439,760 5,900,000,000 700,000,000 149-150(>456,439,760) 149-150(>1,181,439,760) 149-150(>3,231,439,760)
    151 51,236,439,760 6,600,000,000 700,000,000 150-151(>456,439,760) 150-151(>1,181,439,760) 150-151(>3,231,439,760)
    152 57,836,439,760 7,400,000,000 800,000,000 151-152(>456,439,760) 151-152(>1,181,439,760) 151-152(>3,231,439,760)
    153 65,236,439,760 8,200,000,000 800,000,000 152-153(>456,439,760) 152-153(>1,181,439,760) 152-153(>3,231,439,760)
    154 73,436,439,760 9,000,000,000 800,000,000 153-154(>456,439,760) 153-154(>1,181,439,760) 153-154(>3,231,439,760)
    155 82,436,439,760 9,800,000,000 800,000,000 154-155(>456,439,760) 154-155(>1,181,439,760) 154-155(>3,231,439,760)
    156 92,236,439,760 10,600,000,000 800,000,000 155-156(>456,439,760) 155-156(>1,181,439,760) 155-156(>3,231,439,760)
    157 102,836,439,760 11,600,000,000 1,000,000,000 156-157(>456,439,760) 156-157(>1,181,439,760) 156-157(>3,231,439,760)
    158 114,436,439,760 12,600,000,000 1,000,000,000 157-158(>456,439,760) 157-158(>1,181,439,760) 157-158(>3,231,439,760)
    159 127,036,439,760 13,600,000,000 1,000,000,000 158-159(>456,439,760) 158-159(>1,181,439,760) 158-159(>3,231,439,760)
    160 140,636,439,760 14,600,000,000 1,000,000,000 159-160(>456,439,760) 159-160(>1,181,439,760) 159-160(>3,231,439,760)
    161 155,236,439,760 15,800,000,000 1,200,000,000 160-161(>456,439,760) 160-161(>1,181,439,760) 160-161(>3,231,439,760)
    162 171,036,439,760 17,500,000,000 1,700,000,000 161-162(>456,439,760) 161-162(>1,181,439,760) 161-162(>3,231,439,760)
    163 188,536,439,760 19,200,000,000 162-163(>456,439,760) 162-163(>1,181,439,760) 162-163(>3,231,439,760)
    164 20,900,000,000 163-164(>456,439,760) 163-164(>1,181,439,760) 163-164(>3,231,439,760)
    165 22,600,000,000 164-165(>456,439,760) 164-165(>1,181,439,760) 164-165(>3,231,439,760)
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    The first part of the table:

    LMAO i made the 4th column to try and find more patterns in xp increase per level, but if there are any, they are very unusual ones... I think this is a great display of COG logic: either really hard to follow or totaly absent.

    hero lvl total xp at
    start of lvl
    xp needed for
    next lvl
    xp increase
    from last lvl
    drop 1st reincarnation drop 2nd reincarnation drop 3d reincarnation
    1-> 2 0 30 - - -
    2 30 50 20 - - -
    3 80 100 50 - - -
    4 180 200 100 - - -
    5 380 400 200 - - -
    6 780 720 320 - - -
    7 1,500 1,080 360 - - -
    8 2,580 1,520 440 - - -
    9 4,100 1,970 450 - - -
    10 6,070 2,560 590 - - -
    11 8,630 3,200 640 - - -
    12 11,830 3,950 750 - - -
    13 15,780 4,720 770 - - -
    14 20,500 5,500 780 - - -
    15 26,000 6,380 880 - - -
    16 32,380 7,320 940 - - -
    17 39,700 8,280 960 - - -
    18 47,980 9,280 1,000 - - -
    19 57,260 10,300 1,020 - - -
    20 67,560 11,900 1,600 - - -
    21 79,460 13,500 1,600 - - -
    22 92,960 15,200 1,700 - - -
    23 108,160 16,900 1,700 - - -
    24 125,060 18,800 1,900 - - -
    25 143,860 21,000 2,200 - - -
    26 164,860 23,300 2,300 - - -
    27 188,160 25,800 2,500 - - -
    28 213,960 28,400 2,600 - - -
    29 242,360 31,100 2,700 - - -
    30 273,460 36,000 4,900 - - -
    31 309,460 49,300 13,300 - - -
    32 358,760 55,400 6,100 - - -
    33 414,160 61,600 6,200 - - -
    34 475,760 67,800 6,200 - - -
    35 543,560 76,600 8,800 - - -
    36 620,160 85,600 9,000 - - -
    37 705,760 94,600 9,000 - - -
    38 800,360 103,600 9,000 - - -
    39 903,960 112,900 9,300 - - -
    40 1,016,860 124,100 11,200 - - -
    41 1,140,960 158,000 33,900 - - -
    42 1,298,960 171,300 13,300 - - -
    43 1,470,260 184,600 13,300 - - -
    44 1,654,860 198,100 13,500 - - -
    45 1,852,960 215,900 17,800 - - -
    46 2,068,860 233,800 17,900 - - -
    47 2,302,660 251,800 18,000 - - -
    48 2,554,460 270,000 18,200 - - -
    49 2,824,460 288,300 18,300 - - -
    50 3,112,760 314,300 26,000 - - -
    51 3,427,060 389,000 74,700 - - -
    52 3,816,060 418,900 29,900 - - -
    53 4,234,960 449,100 30,200 - - -
    54 4,684,060 479,600 30,500 - - -
    55 5,163,660 522,800 43,200 - - -
    56 5,686,460 566,100 43,300 - - -
    57 6,252,560 609,700 43,600 - - -
    58 6,862,260 653,600 43,900 - - -
    59 7,515,860 698,100 44,500 - - -
    60 8,213,960 767,900 69,800 - - -
    61 8,981,860 945,900 178,000 - - -
    62 9,927,760 1,031,000 85,100 - - -
    63 10,958,760 1,119,000 88,000 - - -
    64 12,077,760 1,209,000 90,000 - - -
    65 13,286,760 1,329,000 120,000 - - -
    66 14,615,760 1,456,000 127,000 - - -
    67 16,071,760 1,587,000 131,000 - - -
    68 17,658,760 1,721,000 134,000 - - -
    69 19,379,760 1,859,000 138,000 - - -
    70 21,238,760 2,045,000 186,000 - - -
    71 23,283,760 2,488,000 443,000 - - -
    72 25,771,760 2,712,000 224,000 - - -
    73 28,483,760 2,942,000 230,000 - - -
    74 31,425,760 3,178,000 236,000 - - -
    75 34,603,760 3,495,000 317,000 - - -
    76 38,098,760 3,827,000 332,000 - - -
    77 41,925,760 4,172,000 345,000 - - -
    78 46,097,760 4,526,000 354,000 - - -
    79 50,623,760 4,888,000 362,000 - - -
    80 55,511,760 5,866,000 978,000 - - -
    81 61,377,760 6,863,000 997,000 - - -
    82 68,240,760 7,893,000 1,030,000 - - -
    83 76,133,760 8,958,000 1,056,000 - - -
    84 85,091,760 10,078,000 1,120,000 - - -
    85 95,169,760 11,290,000 1,212,000 - - -
    86 106,459,760 12,530,000 1,240,000 - - -
    87 118,989,760 13,790,000 1,260,000 - - -
    88 132,779,760 15,040,000 1,250,000 - - -
    89 147,819,760 16,320,000 1,280,000 - - -
    90 164,139,760 18,280,000 1,960,000 - - -
    91 182,419,760 20,280,000 2,000,000 - - -
    92 202,699,760 22,310,000 2,030,000 - - -
    93 225,009,760 24,340,000 2,030,000 - - -
    94 249,349,760 26,410,000 2,070,000 - - -
    95 275,759,760 29,580,000 3,170,000 - - -
    96 305,339,760 32,830,000 3,250,000 - - -
    97 338,169,760 36,120,000 3,290,000 - - -
    98 372,289,760 39,400,000 3,280,000 - - -
    99 413,689,760 42,750,000 3,350,000 - - -
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    Please accept some propz, this is good info.

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    If anyone does a 2nd or 3d reincarnation, could they please write down exactly how much xp the hero has before and after and sent me the information (also their lvl before and after)?
    The xp drop numbers that are listed now might not be right, I would like to get them accurate.
    Thanks.

    edit: we just need the numbers for 3d reincarnation now.
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    Please give me numbers for lvl 143, 145 and higher so i can extend my table.
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    For lvl 143 -> 144 ur hero needs 1,900,000,000 XP

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    thanks! i can see a pattern emerging again, but confirmation would be very welcome. The 145 number is just a guess and what happens after is still unknown.
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    still waiting for patience...


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    For lvl 144 -> 145 ur hero needs 2,300,000,000 XP.
    Last edited by mi3ja; 05-26-2014 at 10:04.

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    thanks mi3ja. That is an interesting observation you made there about heroes catching up to you, I wonder why they did that.
    At 135 I need 5,800,000,000 xp to lvl up, my heroes need 750,000,000, so a lot less. Are you sure you didnt miss a 0 in your characters xp?
    Willow - SilverAngels - s9, m5, M6
    Willow - Peace - Server 53
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    still waiting for patience...


    "All that is gold does not glimmer, not all those who wander are lost"

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