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Thread: [TIP] Amount of exp reduction of reincarnation and recommended reincarnation time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cog_219355 View Post
    It was a lot of work, and some still to do, but if people will be using it, it was worth it
    Without your post here I couldnt have dont it though, I have recommended it to many players already. Shame it doesnt include the silver issue though...

    But if you have your numbers wrong for xp drop for 2nd and 3d reincarnation, I would like to know before i start doing more calculations. How sure are you they are right?
    1st one is definitely right, and the 2nd & 3rd are calculated based on your table. So as long as your table is correct, those numbers are correct

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    Hm weird. Did you read my comment on that from earlier today? It does not make sense to me:

    "The one for the first is exactly the amount of xp up to lvl 100, so a newly lvl 100 hero will drop to lvl 1, which makes sense (I have almost proven this by making my inferno drop to lvl 3).
    But for the amount for 2nd reincarnation is that for a lvl 111 hero, and for 3d for a lvl 121 hero, which does not make sense to me. What will happen if you do 2nd reincarnation on a new 120 hero? its total xp will drop below 0..."

    I am not ready to do a 2nd reincarnation, so i can't check that number. It would help if someone who actually does one (or a third) could calculate the exact drop, with help from my table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cog_219355 View Post
    Hm weird. Did you read my comment on that from earlier today? It does not make sense to me:

    "The one for the first is exactly the amount of xp up to lvl 100, so a newly lvl 100 hero will drop to lvl 1, which makes sense (I have almost proven this by making my inferno drop to lvl 3).
    But for the amount for 2nd reincarnation is that for a lvl 111 hero, and for 3d for a lvl 121 hero, which does not make sense to me. What will happen if you do 2nd reincarnation on a new 120 hero? its total xp will drop below 0..."

    I am not ready to do a 2nd reincarnation, so i can't check that number. It would help if someone who actually does one (or a third) could calculate the exact drop, with help from my table.
    I don't understand your question. 2nd reincarnation will takes away the exp needed to lvl up from 1 to 110.

    So I added all the exp from 100 - 110 to the first one to get the exp reduction for the 2nd reincarnation, and similarly the 3rd reincarnation.

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    hm no, you didnt, you added from 100 to 111, not 110. Well, at least your numbers suggests you did.

    The number you have for 2nd reincarnation, 1,296,439,760 is exactly the amount needed to get a hero to lvl 111 (not 110!). I think it should be 1,181,439,760, the xp of a 110 hero.
    That would fit with the pattern of 1st reincarnation, which has a lvl drop of 456,439,760, exactly the xp needed to get a hero to 100 (and that number is right, i tested that).
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    Quote Originally Posted by cog_219355 View Post
    hm no, you didnt, you added from 100 to 111, not 110. Well, at least your numbers suggests you did.

    The number you have for 2nd reincarnation, 1,296,439,760 is exactly the amount needed to get a hero to lvl 111 (not 110!). I think it should be 1,181,439,760, the xp of a 110 hero.
    That would fit with the pattern of 1st reincarnation, which has a lvl drop of 456,439,760, exactly the xp needed to get a hero to 100 (and that number is right, i tested that).

    I see. maybe I added one more level into it. I'll chekc & correct it.

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    i dont see whi is so hard to level a hero to a level of70% cultivaciom for the second reencarneciom and is not fror frre i just want to get to the second reencarnaciom but the amaut of silver spend and the amaut of red number is absurd and hard to get to 70% cult. so hwo do im sopose to get to a level 100% cul and still have to pay 200 gold

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    Quote Originally Posted by taehosun View Post
    I see. maybe I added one more level into it. I'll chekc & correct it.
    I have obtained the right numbers for 2nd reincarnation and I was right, it is the 1,181,439,760, the xp needed to get a hero to 110. So i will have to redo all my calculations
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    "At 1st reincarnation, the cultivation and the base stat does not give 'break-even' difference. Let's suppose we have a hero A who is reincarnated at lvl100 with 30% cultivation, and another same-type hero B who is reincarnated at lvl140 with 100%.

    A (lvl100): base 1000 + cult 300 (30% of the max 1000) = 1300, B (lvl140): base 2000 + cult 2000 (100% of the max 2000) = 4000

    Of course this figures are wrong. I'm just giving a plausible example. When both of them get to the same lvl 140 after the 1st reincarnation, it might be:

    A (lvl140): base 3000 + transfer 650 = 3650, B (lvl140): base 3000 + transfer 2000 = 5000

    So, B might have 1K-1.5K higher base stat than A (I'm not sure about the exact difference, just an example). The 1K-1.5K difference might not be huge when we consider the cost to lvl up a hero from 100 to 140. However, this gets exponentially greater at your 2nd and 3rd reincarnation, even if you start to fully lvl up and cultivate both A and B. It is because the 2nd reincarnation transfers 70% of the current stat and 3rd reincarnation transfers 100% of the current stat. That means, the difference becomes 2K-2.5K (1K-1.5K x 170%) after the 2nd reincarnation and 4K-5K (2K-2.5K x 200%) after the 3rd reincarnation. This is the difference caused ONLY BY THE GAP BEFORE THE FIRST REINCARNATION. If A's cultivation and level and B's cultivation and level had greater gap, the difference would become much greater."

    Can someone please translate what he meant by all those numbers? I see manny numbers and i dont have an idea where he got them from or what they mean...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub_Zero View Post
    "At 1st reincarnation, the cultivation and the base stat does not give 'break-even' difference. Let's suppose we have a hero A who is reincarnated at lvl100 with 30% cultivation, and another same-type hero B who is reincarnated at lvl140 with 100%.

    A (lvl100): base 1000 + cult 300 (30% of the max 1000) = 1300, B (lvl140): base 2000 + cult 2000 (100% of the max 2000) = 4000

    Of course this figures are wrong. I'm just giving a plausible example. When both of them get to the same lvl 140 after the 1st reincarnation, it might be:

    A (lvl140): base 3000 + transfer 650 = 3650, B (lvl140): base 3000 + transfer 2000 = 5000

    So, B might have 1K-1.5K higher base stat than A (I'm not sure about the exact difference, just an example). The 1K-1.5K difference might not be huge when we consider the cost to lvl up a hero from 100 to 140. However, this gets exponentially greater at your 2nd and 3rd reincarnation, even if you start to fully lvl up and cultivate both A and B. It is because the 2nd reincarnation transfers 70% of the current stat and 3rd reincarnation transfers 100% of the current stat. That means, the difference becomes 2K-2.5K (1K-1.5K x 170%) after the 2nd reincarnation and 4K-5K (2K-2.5K x 200%) after the 3rd reincarnation. This is the difference caused ONLY BY THE GAP BEFORE THE FIRST REINCARNATION. If A's cultivation and level and B's cultivation and level had greater gap, the difference would become much greater."

    Can someone please translate what he meant by all those numbers? I see manny numbers and i dont have an idea where he got them from or what they mean...
    It is a made up example to explain why it is better to wait with reincarnating heroes untill they are a higher level. Thats all

    If you want to know more, check this as well: https://forum.callofgods.com/showthr...rop-calculator
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